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It was women’s basketball. The ball was a little smaller than the one used in the men’s game. Maybe the baskets should be lowered? The jerseys were sewn a little differently – the arm holes were much smaller to make the women more comfortable on the court and to prevent people from looking in. The game started without a hitch. Lots of cheering from the sparse crowd. There was a lot of hype surrounding this one, what with the television promotions and all. There was something to be said for it all. The players would dribble awkwardly, shooting either line-drives or high arching jumpers to little avail. Some shots would go in; many others would not. One of the better players (I believe) dribbled the ball off her foot midway through the 3rd quarter. A pair of lesbians was sharing some cotton candy towards one of the second-tier entryways. The final score of the game was relatively close. Patrons left the game with dull, wistful faces.
Date Written: March 30, 2004Comments:
Average Vote: 3.25
04/1/2004 qualcomm (4): yeah, women and sports are like women and abstract thinking.
04/1/2004 scoop (4): Yeah, they both give me wicked hard boners.
04/1/2004 Benny Maniacs (4): Impressive removed dissonance.
04/1/2004 Dylan Danko (4): It's sad seeing these wymym try so hard to be just like us, to little avail.
04/1/2004 Craig Lewis (3): Is the first line a Lerpa homage ("It was the retarded honeymoon"; "It was the state-mandated day of romance")? Is Cabot a Lerpa wannabe -- or a Lerpa alter-ego? Anyway, I like the "It was..." construction, but this short doesn't do it for me. What excactly does a "dull, wistful face" look like?
04/1/2004 Mr. Pony (1): Yes, yes. "Women just aren't very interesting to serious people" is the new "plus, he was masturbating!" I feel the territory here has been adequately covered, and if this short is riffing off of that coverage instead of sponging off of it, I can't see it. I'm really very sorry to be so discouraging on your maiden voyage, Cabot. But yeah.
04/1/2004 Ewan Snow: You go girl!
04/1/2004 qualcomm: oh pony, stop it. (s)he didn't say women aren't interesting. he said their basketball isn't. and no, lewis, i am not cabot.
04/1/2004 Mr. Pony: The Lerpa, please spare me your knee-jerk, testicle-covering reaction to my knee-jerk, girl-power reaction. My first comment was directed at you and your MANions. I do feel that I've heard "women's basketball" as the punchline to quite a few jokes, though, and my second comment (and my vote) reflects that. By the way, if you were Cabot, I wouldn't hold it against you, and neither, I suspect, would many others on Acme.
04/1/2004 qualcomm: why are you accusing me of testicle-covering and then explaining that your comments were directed at me? wouldn't i already know that if i'm covering? you should be ashamed. you're stepping up for women's basketball (which, correct me if i'm wrong, those of you who follow sports, remains a substandard game), but i've never seen you defend retards, abused children and various other special interests that receive much more regular beatings on this site. HOW DARE YOU?!
04/1/2004 Ewan Snow: Uh oh, cat fight, cat fight! [Clawing motion.] Rrrraaaarrrrwww! Pony, I heard The Lerpa say you were a slut. The Lerpa, Pony says you can't accessorize for shit.
04/1/2004 Jon Matza (4): I think the joke goes beyond 'women's sports are bad/boring to watch'. I sensed, and liked, the author's pleasure in espousing an offensive (though perhaps sincere) viewpoint. Might have liked it better if he took it further and depicted the players as entirely incompetent, bumbling doofuses. Liked the lesbian line; was put off by 'dull faces' of the patrons. 3-3 1/2 but I'll make it 4 to encourage a first-timer & counteract Pony's outrageous vote.
04/1/2004 Mr. Pony: Oh, the Lerpa. The Lerpa, The Lerpa, The Lerpa. I'm not defending women. I'm not defending Women's Basketball, which is at least as stupid and boring as Men's Basketball. I actually do prefer Women's Basketball, but only because it doesn't take my friends away from me. If you had read my initial post instead of standing up on your monkey bucket to insist with a raised finger that your emotional feelings are valid, you might have noticed that I was merely expressing dissatisfaction (albeit extreme dissatisfaction) at a joke spelled out, a joke that I've seen way too many times before. I disagree with Matza's assertion that the author somehow takes pleasure in being offensive here; rather, this short feels like a dispassionate re-telling of a well tread gag. To the author, I again apologize, especially if your intended response was anything other than "Ha ha, yeah, women's basketball really sucks."
04/1/2004 qualcomm: you yourself called your response a "knee-jerk girl-power reaction," and you're not defending women? unlike pictures, words have meaning, asshole.
04/1/2004 Ferucio P. Chhretan (2): What about Women's Volleyball. We can all agree that's some mighty fine watchin', right?
04/1/2004 Mr. Pony: Oh, I'm sorry. Did the first part of my second post not have enough over-the-top goofy überfeminist components to tip you off that I was not being entirely serious? Words do have meaning, The Lerpa, but as I understand it, they're not always literal. Perhaps if I had followed my fake rant with a colon and close-parenthesis mark. See how it sort of makes a smiley-face? Oh, but that's a picture, isn't it?
04/1/2004 Craig Lewis: Pony: whatever the comedy merits of this piece, none of us would deny that, three decades after Title IX, women athletes are coming into their own. For another, possibly more interesting example of the New Acme Misogyny, please consult this overlooked short, which only two of you bothered to rate.
04/1/2004 qualcomm: i agree, you weren't being entirely serious. but that's not good enough. you shouldn't have been at all serious with that crap. admit it, you recognized that your rating/initial comment was powered by a self-righteous, leftist fire, and in your second comment, you were trying to soften your stance with some humor. but it backfired on you like a misguided al franken salvo. f u.
04/1/2004 Ewan Snow: Pony, why don't you take this to the Thunderdome? Or are you a hypocrite, like The Lerpa is always saying?
04/1/2004 Mr. Pony: Ewan, you're absolutely right. I totally forgot about ACME THUNDERDOME!!
04/1/2004 Jimson S. Sorghum (4): Yeah, women's basketball really does suck.
04/2/2004 scoop: The reason I thought this short was so good is because it brought to mind that Vonnegut short story about the ballerina who resists govenment reguklations and unshackles her legs so she can flying through the air. Is it possible that this short was a sort of subtle denoument to the cult of fairness/equality schtick of the 90s played out in the lonliness of an empty gym of bored fans pretendig to enjoy an inferior game? Its like an audience from Vonneguts story a 15-years later wathcing the ball-and-chained dancers and forcing themselves to appreciate it because it makes them feel like good people. It seems a little risky to condemn shorts for being offensive or misogynist or whatever becaue we might end up slamming good satire, which I think this short was.
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: Hey, Author--was it? By the way, congratulations on generating so much activity on your first day out, even if most of it was due to the Lerpa's inability to understand my position.
04/2/2004 Cabot: Guys, thanks for all the feedback. Unfortunately, that satirical element Scoop is looking for doesn't exist in this one. I thought the ineptitude of the whole thing was funny, but even funnier to me is the lack of passion expressed by the narrator and the subsequent sadness of the whole affair. Everyone's trying so hard (including the audience).
04/2/2004 qualcomm: but why are they trying so hard, cabot? isn't that the very satirical element scoop was talking about?
04/2/2004 Cabot: Well, I guess you're right. I should've said that I didn't have Vonnegut and ballerinas in mind.
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: See? Ballerinas indeed.
04/2/2004 Cabot: But one star, Pony? My women's basketball is slick with tears.
04/2/2004 qualcomm: pony, damn you, he just admitted to the satirical element. stop it. it's over.
04/2/2004 Cabot: Damn you, Pony, and all your equine brethren.
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: Once again, author, I apologize for giving such a low rating. I felt it was my righteous moral duty to correct for earlier votes individuals who obviously only went along because they hate and fear women, not because of any pure aesthetic decision. Had I voted first, my vote probably would have fallen somewhere between a two and a three. I assure you, my vote was not a defense of women's basketball, or women, or even lesbians. I just felt the joke had been done. As for a satirical element, exactly what was being satirized?
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: Over, the Lerpa? Come on, I could have ended the argument at any point yesterday just because I was winning. I did not. I thought you deserved to be heard.
04/2/2004 Cabot: The support given to such feminine enterprises. Honestly, it's the relationship between audience and performer, not performer ineptitude, where the humor lies.
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: Okay, that makes some sense, actually. If the Lerpa was one quarter as articulate, I could have gotten twice as much work done yesterday.
04/2/2004 qualcomm: pony, what cabot just said is the meat of scoop's argument from last night. what is wrong with your brain?
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: In your text, though, I don't see any such support. The fans are cheering, sure, but I'm not sure that the casual, careless tone fully gets this idea across. If the speaker had been excited, maybe, I think I would have been easier to convince.
04/2/2004 qualcomm: yeah, cabot, in the future, please make the jokes more obvious for pony. maybe you could even publish "special" versions just for him. see, he thinks in pictures.
04/2/2004 Cabot: Are pictographs acceptable?
04/2/2004 Ewan Snow: The Lerpa, why don't you take this back to the Thunderdome? Or are you a hypocrite, like Mr. Pony is always saying.
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: Lerpa, it's because it's not there in the text. I don't think we can read something based on the author's intent, as you suggest. Also, scoop's comment came rather late in the day, and really wasn't talking about that part of the argument. And now something's wrong with my brain because I don't agree with you? And everyone's somehow being intellectually dishonest when they don't agree with you or your impression of them? And when you perceive the argument has swung in your favor, the argument has to end? And now the jokes have to be more obvious so I can get them? This one's plenty obvious, as I've been saying all along.
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: Cabot, would you rather we go to the THUNDERDOME? It's your call.
04/2/2004 Cabot: I'll stay here for now. I'm afraid of those Thunderdome flames.
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: The fire will cleanse us all, and bring us out of the darkness.
04/2/2004 Cabot: I'll stick to self-flagellation.
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: That works too.
04/2/2004 qualcomm: pony, scoop wrote: "Its like an audience from Vonneguts story a 15-years later wathcing the ball-and-chained dancers and forcing themselves to appreciate it because it makes them feel like good people." that's the crux of what cabot means when he said he was satirizing "The support given to such feminine enterprises". am i making an incorrect connection here, cabot?
and now, pony, to answer your questions in the order they appear.
1) i said something's wrong with your brain because you can't see that scoop's argument is essentially the same as what cabot is saying.
2) no, i don't think everyone who disagrees with me is dishonest. i only said you and jimson were being dishonest when it came to this short. (you seem to have a tendency to universalize everything i say, though i suspect that this is a cynical rhetorical trick you use to put your opponents on the defensive.) i thought your negative response to the short reflected a protective attitude toward women that reminded me of the very thing the short was mocking (though i grant that i did a terrible job of articulating what i liked about the short). this is supported by your extremely uncharacteristic one star rating. look in your record, dude -- how many of those have you given, ever? then, look in your heart, please.
3) no, we can go on like this until st. swithen's day for all i care.
04/2/2004 qualcomm: however, pony, regarding point 2, you seem to be saying that that wasn't your intention at all, and i believe you. i'm just explaining what i perceived yesterday.
04/2/2004 Ewan Snow: Did I mention that I like women?
04/2/2004 Ewan Snow: (except fo the fact that they're humans, and I hate most humans!)
04/2/2004 Dylan Danko: Is it possible that Pony's comments here are really one long love letter to annebot?
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: I guess my particular bottom line is that the joke "Women's Basketball Sucks" is an old one that's been made a lot (although not on this site, as. My problem with the supposedly different joke "People who won't acknowledge that Women's Basketball sucks, themselves suck" is two-fold. One, the joke really doesn't seem all that different to me. Of course it's different--but like you said, it's really only about 10 degrees off. I do agree that it says more about our society in general, but the joke, the funny part seems to be at the very least very similar. Two, the joke doesn't seem to be present in the text. Two is the big point for me. I am just learning to read; maybe I've missed it--but I really honestly don't see any clues that would lead me to that joke in the actual text. I've been trying for the last five minutes. Maybe you're right, maybe these things need to be dumbed down for Mr. Pony, but all I'm reading is a dispassionate disinterest.
1) I know what you were referring to. Just thought it fit with my thesis.
2) As my universalizing of everything you say, Maybe I do that. But you did accuse everyone who crossed your path during the course of this argument yesterday of intellectual dishonesty. That's me, Jimson, and Ewan. That's what I was referring to. The people who were involved with the argument yesterday. That's three of four, if you count scoop, who was agreeing with you for part of the time. Hardly universal, I know, and I apologize for making such a patently absolute statement about your arguing style. I appreciate you giving me the benefit of the doubt, and believing me.
3) I was referring to your comment that reads as follows: "The Lerpa: pony, damn you, he just admitted to the satirical element. stop it. it's over." When's St. Swithen's day?
4) So we agree that the short is obvious, just not on the particular definition of the word "obvious".
04/2/2004 qualcomm: ok. i love you. but as far as i remember, i only called you and jimson dishonest. no one else.
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: You never called Ewan dishonest?
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: Wait, you did, but any reasonable reader would have to assume that you were joking. Sorry. I love you, too.
04/2/2004 Jon Matza: What I'm taking away from all this is something I've long suspected: when it comes to Acme, chivalry is Pony's emotional achilles heel, i.e. the one area that causes an otherwise super-smart fellow to become unbalanced in his views, misread, overreact, etc. Likewise, Snow becomes unbalanced when faced with the presence of Lewis. Lerpa becomes unhinged and loses his otherwise irreproachable perspective when contemplating questions of plagiarism, suspected theft of material, attribution and originality. I invite others to speculate about my own primary oversensitivity and those of the other authors.
04/2/2004 Ewan Snow (3): Well, everything else aside, the specific point about this short as a satire of people's love for a mediocre event is only briefly touched on in the text. The first five sentences are simply making fun of women's basketball. The next two sentences, beginning with "Lots of cheering..." do make the point about the fans. The next five sentences are either just making fun of the game or showing (what I took to be disinterested) lesbian fans. The final sentence seems (maybe) to contradict the point; "dull" maybe contradicts, "wistful" maybe supports.
It seems to me that this short is mostly about how women's basketball sucks, rather than about how its fans are ridiculous for liking it. Personally, I think either is a reasonable subject for a short, except that as I have no interest in basketball, played by females or the other kind, I don't get a lot out of satire of it or its fans.
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: Matza, you're framing my argument just the way the Lerpa wants you to. I have no weaknesses. Ewan, right on. That's just what I would have voted if those bastards hadn't been sitting there chuckling at women trying to make it in a man's world. ;)
04/2/2004 qualcomm: Matza: being accused of taking things too seriously or of getting angry/being mean-spirited
Lewis: being told that 3/4 of record collection should be melted down and converted into hot-pants
Danko: any number of imagined slights
Maniacs: chivalry, like pony
Scoop: nonexistent threats to free speech
Jimson: babies, ponies and welding
04/2/2004 Ewan Snow: Yeah, you're right. Lewis is such a dick.
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: Scoop: Artificial attempts to disturb or manipulate the self-leveling of the natural order of the Universe.
Dylan: Any time the Lerpa is mean to him.
The Lerpa: seemingly random
Maniacs: Chivalry, yes, but way more so than me. As stated, I have no weaknesses.
04/2/2004 Ewan Snow: The Lerpa: being wrong, perceived as wrong, or not getting the last word.
04/2/2004 Cabot: I think some of you need to find more than a passing interest in sports. Wasn't the ancient Greek ideal to be strong in body and in mind? Obviously there is a lot of sophistry going on around here. Those dudes weren't tussling around naked for nothing. That should appeal to you homos.
04/2/2004 Ewan Snow:
04/2/2004 Ewan Snow: Cabot, it's just that we're into X-sports (surf kiting, heli-scootering, bare knuckle boxing), not bourgeois establishment phalocentric pastimes like women's basketball.
04/2/2004 Cabot: Pony baiting?
04/2/2004 Ewan Snow: Nope, for that I use sugar cubes and an apple. Cabot, who are you, by the way? Not your name, but how did you end up here? Are you one of us pretending to be Cabot? If so, who? Are you an acquaintance of somebody on this site? Just happen to find it? What?
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: I think naked wrestling is pretty much the perfect metaphor for what's going on here.
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: Yes, Cabot, you seem good. Pay no attention to that single-star rating I gave you.
04/2/2004 Jon Matza: darts is a good sport.
04/2/2004 Dylan Danko: The Lerpa: Immovable goal posts. Rational thought.
Ewan: That Texan guy who's friends with your sister.
Pony: Personal conversations about uncomfortable things
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: I HAVE NO WEAKNESSES! DON'T BRING UP THAT CONVERSATION!
04/2/2004 Jon Matza: Hiking: also challenging.
04/2/2004 qualcomm: snow, re your comments on this short, i think the satire of the fans is in there, just a little buried. take a look at this sentence, for example: "Maybe the baskets should be lowered?". who is asking that question, one must wonder; i believe that that sentence is supposed to express the sentiments of the supporters of the game. next, the focus on how the jerseys are different has nothing to do with the level of play, so what is it making fun of, careful readers should ask. the key phrase is "to prevent people from looking in." this, along with the basket height query, reflects what i think is a condescending strain of thought in those who claim to be feminists: that women have to change the rules (of sports, workplace policies, whatever) to suit their "special needs". as christopher lloyd says to cheswick in One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, "Just play the game, hard-on." "dull, wistful faces," reflects the intellectual dishonesty of the fans.
Finally, I would like to climb up on my monkey bucket and say this: that even if cabot didn't intend this as the deep satire that my (and scoop's) explication suggests, but rather, as an obvious provocation piece, the very fact that the provocation has traction proves that there's something in our culture regarding this topic that's worthy of being satired. further, that the provocation itself is a legitimate satire.
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: I wasn't provoked. Why do I have to keep saying that? Otherwise, you're right. It's a well-known fact that circular reasoning can't be refuted.
04/2/2004 qualcomm: Danko, you have a pernicious rhetorical habit of lazily taking whatever was said about you and parroting it back at your opponent (with the appropriate pronouns changed, of course)
04/2/2004 Dylan Danko: No, you do.
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: Ha ha
04/2/2004 Jon Matza: Finally, many fail to realize that competitive chess can be extremely physically (not just mentally) taxing on the players.
04/2/2004 Cabot: I appreciate (The) Lerpa's grasp of subtlety. I wasn't trying to provoke - just wanted to get some laughs. As to my identity, Ewan, I assure you that I am none of you in disguise. Just a man (oops, there goes the question of my gender) enjoying the forum.
04/2/2004 Jon Matza: "Just a man whose circumstances went beyond his control/beyond my control/we all need control"
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: Well, of COURSE you're a man. Who but a MAN would write such a BLATANTLY SEXIST SHORT? Ha, ha, ahah, aheh. I'm kidding, of course...aheh.
04/2/2004 qualcomm: and re snow's last scurrilous comment on The Lerpa, i would direct our gentle readers to any of the great snow/lewis arguments for examples of a monomania for getting the last word.
04/2/2004 Cabot: Is The Lerpa allowed to speak in the 3rd person without censure?
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: Hey, you just got the last word!
04/2/2004 Ewan Snow: Lerpa: to belabor the point, I disagree with most of your points in the first paragraph. “Maybe the baskets should be lowered?" is clearly being asked by the narrator. The sentence is merely making fun of women basketball players as not being able to reach a regulation hoop. It is doing so in a sort of distracted, casual tone. How do you see this as expressing the sentiments of fans of the game? As for the comment about the jerseys, that is just making fun of the players for being girly/weak/prissy. I don’t think this reflects the condescension of those who claim to be feminists, but the condescension of the narrator, bland and disinterested condescension as it is. I do agree with your second paragraph, however, in that provocation for its own sake can and does often have merit as satire.
04/2/2004 Cabot: Is it presumptious of me to nominate this for 'The Latest Controversy'?
04/2/2004 Jon Matza: Deep sea fishing: no walk in the park.
04/2/2004 qualcomm: Cabot, i think it's too late for that. All the rancor has gone out of the debate.
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: Cabot, that should have been done yesterday, but Will Disney, who usually sets the latest controversy, has been busy building more wondrous online tools with which we may more effectively examine our own butt holes.
04/2/2004 Cabot: The comment about the jerseys can certainly be interpreted as mere narrator condescension. But I think it can also be interpreted as simple, direct fact as expressed (or contemplated) by the viewing public, specifically those who support (or feign support) for the event. Since they may be expressing it in earnest, without sarcasm, I think it adds to the sadness (and ultimately the humor) of the spectacle which is an inherently inferior product (all subjectivity aside). Fair?
04/2/2004 Ewan Snow: Yes, Lerpa, that's true, but I despise Lewis. My goal was to annoy him in any way possible, insult him, wear him down, drive him off the site, etc. Further the fact that I'm guilty of something doesn't mean that you're not.
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: Examining one's own butt hole: Burns 520 calories per hour.
04/2/2004 qualcomm: oh, well in that case:
Snow: finding faults with other people that he doesn't share to at least the same degree
04/2/2004 Ewan Snow: Your comment doesn't fit the form of the others below, or is otherwise unclear. Are you saying that my "finding faults with other people that [I don't] share to at least the same degree" makes me get upset, act irrationally? What does that mean? I make myself upset when I criticize people for faults I don't have? I can only criticize others for faults I have or else get annoyed? Huh?
04/2/2004 Ewan Snow: Or was the double inversion and awkwardness intended and I missed the joke, as I now suspect upon rereading?
04/2/2004 Dylan Danko: I too am confused.
04/2/2004 Ewan Snow: Lerpa, you better respond to this! I won't let you let me get the last word. Consensus is building that you're wrong, dead wrong about a whole host of important issues. Are you just going to sit there?
04/2/2004 qualcomm: no, i was saying that your hypocritical critiques of other people was a symptom of your achilles heel, which is getting most annoyed by those faults in others that you yourself share (e.g., my last word obsession, lewis' smugness)
04/2/2004 qualcomm: sorry for the delay, i was ordered to go to lunch.
04/2/2004 Jimson S. Sorghum: Matza: shush.
04/2/2004 Jimson S. Sorghum: Incidentally, for proof that Pony has no weakness, or, more accurately, that his weakness is not chivalry, please take a gander at "Mr. Pony's Personalized Author Rankings."
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: And for proof that Ms. Sorghum isn't just reflexively springing to my defense, sneak a peak at "Jimson S. Sorghum's Personalized Author Rankings."
04/2/2004 Jimson S. Sorghum: Why, Mr. Pony, I don't know what you mean.
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: Oh, you.
04/2/2004 Jon Matza: Jimson: Pony's "low" ranking of you doesn't prove squat. He admitted earlier today that his ranking of author shorts comes to 4.307. If you and I are low on his list, it prob'bly means we're hovering around 4. However, there's other evidence of Pony's perverse psycho-emotional makeup about for those detectives of human nature who wish to see the truth. Ample evidence, Jimson. Damning...vicious evidence.
04/2/2004 Mr. Pony: Why, Jon Matza, I don't know what you mean.
04/2/2004 Jon Matza: I don't have the will to build an actual case but I'm serious about having thought this--i.e., the chivalry accusation I leveled at Mr. Pony at 4:07:18 PM--long before the b-ball incident (which I realize may or may not prove anything, depending on your point of view). There-I said it.
04/3/2004 Jimson S. Sorghum: I won't say you're wrong, Matza, but I don't think you should accuse Pony of that unless you are willing to build the case. Even if it isn't the worst thing one could be accused of.
04/3/2004 Mr. Pony: Seriously, I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
04/3/2004 Jon Matza: Flimson: it is enough for me - and therefore should be more than enough for you - that I know in my heart I am right.
04/3/2004 Jimson S. Sorghum: Fine. Just sayin....
05/19/2004 TheBuyer (1): Well, this is complete crap. Let-down random.
05/19/2004 TheBuyer: Read the short and voted, then read the commentary. Still don't like it, but should have two'd it for missing some fairly sub-tile jokes that I should have inferred in my initial perusal; I pride myself of getting a nice, warm, blowjob from subtile points. Also, I have just taken a shit into a bucket and I'm looking at it right now.
No one is reading this, right
05/19/2004 TheBuyer: Ok, the short in reality SUCKED, but I am giving this fucker a 5 simply for the fact that it kept all you guys busy for a good 24 hours hypothesising and arguing over it. Which I find actually quite funny, in and of itself.
05/19/2004 Pix: Jesus... Where's the delete???
Damn cookies, the previous shoulda been me.
I gotta stop hanging out here, its bad for my health and internet etiqutte.
05/19/2004 Pix (5): Theres my 5...
05/19/2004 Mr. Pony: Pix, the short didn't keep us busy for all that time. It was our pride. Or more specifically, The Lerpa's pride.
08/27/2004 Mr. P?ny: I know this argument's kind of dead, but a lot of people have misquoted my position on this, so here it is: it's wrong to make fun of women. They are an oppressed, victimized group whom we as enlightened men must rise up to defend against retrograde misogynists. I like the Cosby Show.
08/27/2004 Ol‘ Summer Sausage: And there's something you you all need to know about me. I have a chess piece in my butt. A bishop.
08/27/2004 Ol‘ Summer Sausage: Seriously, though, I'm sorry, Pony for posting under your name there. Even though any idiot could have see though my fake "o", I feel I should apologize for that. mostly, though, re-reading this argument, I feel ashamed at the way I carried on in this "women's basketball" subplot. You obviously had a well-reasoned opinion (albeit an extremely complex and perhaps overly intelligent one), but instead of trying to understand what you were saying, I decided to pretend that you were saying something stupid and simple that I could counter with one of the many awesome counter-arguments that I learned watching Hannity and Combs. To be honest, I was afraid of the complexity of your argument. There, I said it. I feel better, just like my therapist said I would.
08/27/2004 Mr. P?ny: I don't like black people. Little bit scared of them. Hence, the Cosby's.
08/27/2004 qualcomm: yeah
08/27/2004 Jac?b Starfish: What are you talking about Fake Summer Sausage? That was Mr. Pony posting, there's no difference in the o's. Stop trying to confuse this even more, whoever you are.
06/17/2005 Mr. Pony: Yeah.