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Date Written: April 01, 2004Comments:
Author: Mr. Pony
Average Vote: 4.11111
04/6/2004 John Slocum (4): Author: What happens between panels 13 and 14? Or is the reader meant not to know what Dani says that causes the speaker to have to go to the yoga thing? Don't quite understand. Great, subtle sequence of facial expressions. Amazing how you can make a relatively banal exchange visually interesting.
04/6/2004 Craig Lewis: My pretty Pony: is this chick a nun? I can't tell if she's an Asian chick in workout clothes (black hair, white headband) or a "sister" in a habit. I think I see a crucifix in the penultimate panel. Please clarify.
04/6/2004 Ewan Snow (4): Pony, is this supposed to be a nun? I couldn't tell. I'm retarded. And an asshole.
04/6/2004 Craig Lewis: And I'm a fat unhappy prick with a dopey little beard and a dead-end job!
04/6/2004 Ewan Snow: You are?
04/6/2004 anonymous: No blasters! No blasters!
04/6/2004 qualcomm: i don't get it. was it something dani said?
04/6/2004 Benny Maniacs (5): OK. I'll explain this short to all of you confused halflings: The woman is obviously an eighties singer. This is just a day in the life type thing - she met an old friend, and must get to her yoga class(note early eighties Madonna-like crucifix in said penTultimate frame).
04/6/2004 Benny Maniacs: Author: What the hell does the Edsel-like Thunderdome got to do with it?
04/6/2004 anonymous: So wait, no one gets it? I hope no one's over-thinking it.
04/6/2004 qualcomm: i'm assuming dani made a presumptuous comment along the lines that the break-up with pete caused the main chick's nunhood...
04/6/2004 Ewan Snow: I think it's pretty straight forward.
04/6/2004 Ewan Snow: Yeah, I thought it might be something like that too, but it isn't clear and doesn't matter what it is that Dani said specifically.
04/6/2004 Ewan Snow: Or Dani could have made a pass at her...
04/6/2004 Benny Maniacs: I didn't think Dani had to say anything - after the initial enthusiasm of meeting an old friend, the nun just remembered she was in a fucking habit. Did I kill something there?
04/6/2004 qualcomm: missing the three R's of Acme: rape, retards or 'rithmetic.
04/6/2004 Mr. Pony: Everything is fine.
04/6/2004 Craig Lewis: Pony: I think everyone gets it, except maybe Slocum. My "question" was a not-very-witty effort to hip my pal Slocum to the joke here, which, based on his query about panels 13 and 14, I assumed (perhaps mistakenly), that he didn't quite get.
04/6/2004 Ewan Snow: Lerpa, it's not missing that stuff. It's just between the panels... Benny, yes that's true. But the nun's "What? No... I... um..." implies Dani did say something. I agree, however, that it doesn't mater that much. Author, do you want to give further insight into this detail?
04/6/2004 anonymous: One thing I don't get about Pony's work is this: why do all the characters in his work have to be Asian?
04/6/2004 qualcomm: pony has an asian fetish.
04/6/2004 anonymous: She's not Asian. She's Irish!
04/6/2004 Benny Maniacs: I imagine Dani's words are just like Charlie Brown's teacher's garbled language. This is essentially a monologue. A Nunologue!
04/6/2004 anonymous: Asian? What the hell are you talking about?
04/6/2004 anonymous: Yo that's meesed up about the Irish thing.
04/6/2004 anonymous: Oh, right--The Tribbles!
04/6/2004 Jacob Starfish: Don't be silly, the Lerpa--Pony loves all the ladies.
04/6/2004 Mr. Pony: You betcha.
04/6/2004 anonymous: And Ewan--That's pretty much the story.
04/6/2004 John Slocum: Lewis: Because you made an ass of u and me, I'm going to make you pay.
04/6/2004 Craig Lewis: Ok, wine boy.
04/6/2004 Ewan Snow: Craig, it's interesting how every time you don't understand a joke, you later explain how you were just joking. So now you're saying you were trying to explain the joke to Slocum? Funny, he didn’t seem confused. He didn’t ask anything about if the chick were a nun. He was asking a question about the implied Dani dialogue, which is quite natural since it is left unclear. He gave it four stars, so he must have got the joke. How does asking if the chick is a nun explain anything to Slocum? Please point to a single piece of evidence that your comment is meant to “hip my pal Slocum to the joke” as you claim. I think you’re just lying.
04/6/2004 John Slocum: Snow: Because you talked about me as if I weren't in the room, I'm going to make you pay.
04/6/2004 Ewan Snow: Slocum, I'm sorry. I didn't think you were in the room. I started writing that post before you posted yours.
04/6/2004 Mr. Pony: I think it's too late for apologies, Ewan. Slocum is clearly going to make you pay.
04/6/2004 Ewan Snow: I think I have come to terms with that fact. Slocum, do you take forged checks?
04/6/2004 Craig Lewis: Ewan: it's interesting how many times you begin one of your little rants with the piquant phrase, "it's interesting." Maybe I was wrong, but my belief was that if Slocum had gotten the point that "the speaker" was a nun, he wouldn't have asked about panels 13 or 14. The joke here wasn't in the short's "action" or the details of the conversation (i.e., "what Dani says that causes the speaker to have to go to the yoga thing"), but the mere fact that a nun was talking about yoga, boyfriends, saying "Holy fuck," etc. Slocum made reference to "a relatively banal exchange"; the exchange would be banal if the interlocutors were just two chicks in the street, but a nun having a Sex And The City-style conversation with her girlfriend isn't exactly banal. In any case, I'm sure I was wrong about Slocum, and if I wasn't, I feel bad about beleaguering the point: after all, I love Slocum and I respect him -- intellectually and enologically. Now Ewan, I know that all of your bestest friends don't like me, and I understand that it's very important to you to know that I'm a moron -- that this knowledge gives you a very special warm feeling, a warm welling, deep within your bosoms -- so do feel free to continue thinking that I'm "just lying."
04/6/2004 qualcomm (3): well, anyway, this sucker left me cold. though it is pretty.
04/6/2004 Benny Maniacs: Contrary to popular opinion, I still enjoy commenting on the gayness of people who have passionate, heated, sweaty arguments.
04/6/2004 John Slocum: Alright, maybe I didn't completely get it. I thought it might be a nun, but was a little confused, I saw the cross in panel 14, but thought it might be a crease in her blouse (albeit a perfectly cross-shaped crease), was confused, if it were a nun why was she swearing and talking about relationships. Many nuns probably do yoga - no problems there. The funny thing is, if I hadn't been a little dense and had understood the short, I think my rating would be the same. Maybe I understood the short on a less than conscious level. Anyway, Pony: for making me feel dense, I'm going to make you pay.
04/6/2004 John Slocum: By the way, is this Pony's? Let's not forget, the author hasn't yet been revealed.
04/6/2004 mr.coffee (4): Whether she's a nun or not [I'm gonna assume she is], the fact that she runs off seems irrelevant to me. Its nice to see a nun carrying a everyday conversation, complete with vulgarities, and sex. After all, aren't they supposed to be the most normal, simple,basic people on the planet. What could be more simple than letting the word "fuck" roll right off the tongue! FUCK...HOLYF FFUUUUUCCCKKKKK.....
anywhoo you get the point.
04/6/2004 Jon Matza (5): There are a lot of "vivid" personalities commenting on this short. I thought the dialogue was hysterical.
04/6/2004 John Slocum: Matza: I don't know if you're including me in your group of 'vivid' personalities, but just in case you are, I'm going to make you pay.
04/6/2004 Ferucio P. Chhretan (3): Why is it assumed that this nun is Asian? Or a woman for that matter?
I'm sorry Pony, but after the sixth panel this seemed like a version of that short about the two girls talking about Fitzy. It lost the surprise element, and became the "how far can you take this" kinda story. It's good in that respect. It builds interesting questions about eighties popstars who resemble nuns, but I think It could either be cut shorter, or go way farther. I think you could make this short way more interesting by having the nun not be a nun. Just an average person. Then what she's saying isn't about breaking context, but about what actually happened between them. The nun thing just seems to make me underthink the text. we've been having this convo a lot lately about the surprise ha ha versus the deep ha ha. Very nice nun pictures though.
04/6/2004 anonymous: Ferucio, some weird things have certainly been said about this short so far, but your comments confuse the living shit out of me. I do think I know why anon_user_a thought the nun was Asian, though. Dani, the woman the nun is talking to, works (or at least has worked) at a Japanese restaurant. Therefore, it can be inferred that Dani is Korean, or possibly Chinese. Both of these ethnic groups are known to congregate together in places such as Chinatown, Koreatown, and in college campus cafeterias. As a result, they end up becoming friends. Ergo, since Dani and our nun are obviously old friends, it is reasonable to assume that both Dani and the nun have ancestors that hail from Asia. Also, the nun's eyes are small.
04/6/2004 Ferucio P. Chhretan: I don't really care about that part, Pony.
If you want to get into your Asian fetish that's cool.
You fucking rascist.
No I was more intersted in the question of why she has to be a nun. Because it kills it for me. It diffuses the point of the short for me, but of course, Her being a nun is the point, isn't it. You're trying to say that a nun can have a regular life just like everyone else, and maybe people should look at nuns differently from now on. Sure, fine. That's great. I guess in this short the text is more interesting than the idea proposed by the image. But that's my opinion. And i'm sure that I'm wrong.
04/6/2004 qualcomm: FP, i don't see what the point of this short would be if she weren't a nun. then it would just be a bland conversation between anyone and anyone.
04/6/2004 Jimson S. Sorghum (5): stupendous.
04/6/2004 anonymous: Pony = half-asian = Ching-chong-ching-chong
04/6/2004 qualcomm: kunichika?
04/6/2004 Ferucio P. Chhretan: I guess it must seem bland for you, The Lerpa. I mean, there's no rape or cocksucking going on.
04/6/2004 Mr. Pony: I'm going to have to go with anon_a = Maniacs
04/6/2004 qualcomm: i already said that in an earlier comment, you fucking dago.
04/6/2004 Ferucio P. Chhretan: OOOH ZING!
04/6/2004 anonymous: I object hugely to any of you calling any others of you Dagos. That's fuked up
04/6/2004 qualcomm: oh, oh, now I'LL say zing back to YOU, and it will almost be like an actual retort. shouldn't you be out accosting american tourists in the streets with persistent, unwanted sexual advances?
04/6/2004 Benny Maniacs: The Lerpa calling Pony a dago is certainly funnier than Ferucio being insulted, so I'm going to read it like that. I agree with anon a: the term "dago" is reallu unnecessary here.
04/6/2004 qualcomm: you shut up too, you fucking... what the hell are you, anyway?
04/6/2004 scoop: fucking kraut perfection.
04/6/2004 anonymous: Ferucio: You madman. She IS a nun. That's not meant to detract from the thing, it's meant to be the thing. There isn't really supposed to be any sort of surprise here. She sees an old friend, slips back into old ways, and then realizes that there are some things that she doesn't feel like explaining, so she cuts off the conversation. (Now that a bunch of people have seen the short and weighed in, I feel less stupid about exxxplaining it.) Mrs. Pony did remark that the short would be similar (if less loaded) if the speaker was wearing a bunny suit. I agree with her, sort of. Nuns are hotter and more fun to draw.
04/6/2004 anonymous: Whoa--what the hell happened while I was typing?
04/6/2004 Benny Maniacs: Don't take your bad day out on me, you little Sumarian fiddler on the roof. I'm only full of L-U-V.
P.S. for your purposes of comeback, you could probably best use WASP as a negative moniker for my geneology.
04/6/2004 Jimson S. Sorghum: RE: The asianness or lack thereof of the nun: She sorta looked like Meg Tilly in Agnes of God. I think that might have something to do with it.
No one yet commented on the fact that the nun also has very nun-like gestures, which is kind of cool--check out the ninth panel, for instance. It made me wonder if the art was done first and then the author provided the text later.
04/6/2004 Benny Maniacs: My last comment was supposed be directed at The Lerpa.
04/6/2004 scoop: Yeah but Maniacs, there's something about the word WASP that doesn't capture the Kraut-like attention to detail that obviously went in to manufacturing you.
04/6/2004 Jimson S. Sorghum: No way. The nun idea is perfect. I don't think it would have been 1/2 as good with the bunny suit. It's much funnier to think that a nun could kind of forget herself in this way.
04/6/2004 anonymous: I have to admit - I really took the nun's gestures as "Asian gestures" if that's possible.
04/6/2004 qualcomm: hai.
04/6/2004 Mr. Pony: Good eye, Jimson. Panel nine was the first thing I drew, before the text had really taken any sort of shape. I agree about the nun--thanks for getting it so thoroughly. Nobody understands me but you!
04/6/2004 Mr. Pony: Chimpo Kinenbi!
04/6/2004 scoop: Just an observation: Both Ferucio P. Chhretan and The Lerpa gave this short the same vote, but for totally different reasons -- The Lerpa because as Chhretan points out with great hilarity, wait let me catch my breath, whew, there was "no rape or cocksucking going on." And Chhretan gave it three stars, I presume, because it wasn't 400 words plus and about Santy Claus! Fascinating!
04/6/2004 Benny Maniacs: Scoop: Why do you want to throw yourself into a bull-ring with a waving red flag dangling from your scrotum? For everyone's information, Scoop's family tree comes from a combination of Eskimos and the White men who raped them.
04/6/2004 qualcomm: why not create an Acme Fuckdome so you and Jimson can go off and fuck in private? you could have the love theme music that plays after spock gets sprayed by the oblivion-flower.
04/6/2004 qualcomm: below comment for pony.
04/6/2004 anonymous: Well, to be fair, that is pretty much what the Lerpa said. Three R's and all. I respect that, mind you.
04/6/2004 scoop: Why change the music???
04/6/2004 anonymous: Listen. You're all missing the subtext of this. Pony is fantisizing about the Asian and highly Catholic nature of his ex-girlfriend. Why would a grown man sit home and draw frame 9? It's HOT.
04/6/2004 anonymous: And here's my vote.
04/6/2004 qualcomm: Frame 9, alternate text: "Tee hee hee. The squid gelato is very goooood! You have brought out an aspect of the theme ingredient I have never noticed before. It is like moonclouds in my mouth!"
04/6/2004 anonymous: FFpprrrbblllttTTT!
04/6/2004 Ferucio P. Chhretan: I would have responded sooner, but there was that weird thing that happened. Oh and I was making pasta. But anyone who graduated from high school can see that my last name is obviously Slavic. I think a bunny suit done properly could be way more sexy than the nun suit, but why didn't you just draw her as Batgirl, then?
You know I would take all of it back and give you eight stars if you told me the nun was actually Elektra.
I smell a turgid sack...oh Hi Scoop!
04/6/2004 qualcomm: wait FP, you said i was the turgid sack. what gives? and what the hell? i mean, your last name did give me pause before calling you a dago, but ferucio the slav?
04/6/2004 Ferucio P. Chhretan: Hey anon-a just come out already.
04/6/2004 scoop: "4/6/[censored] 3:21:12 PM - Ferucio P. Chhretan: OOOH ZING!"
04/6/2004 Mr. Pony: Let's leave Batgirl out of this, please.
04/6/2004 Ferucio P. Chhretan: Klopek...that's a Slavic name isn't it.
04/6/2004 Benny Maniacs: Making pasta ha ha ha. Fucking Guinea. Listen Pony, I'm only one point behind you on the big board - if you continue to make stuff of this quality, I'll surpass you in no time.
04/6/2004 qualcomm: sardine?
04/6/2004 Ferucio P. Chhretan: Good point though, The Lerpa There's so much testes running around here I get my epithets mixed up. Good thing I have all these ethnic qualities to pick on so you don't get mixed up. I'd hate to make you be creative, The Lerpa.
04/6/2004 Ferucio P. Chhretan: It came with the frame.
04/6/2004 qualcomm: oh. zing.
04/6/2004 anonymous: Hey Ferucio, I enjoy seeing you try to be funny and look stupid from an anonymous vantage (element of surprise). Besides, if you read my typos you'll see who I am anyway. My keyboard's fucked up.
04/6/2004 qualcomm: no, but seriously, FP, you fucking turnip-gathering, soviet comfort boy, shouldn't you be out having artificial borders imposed on your homeland by superior races?
04/6/2004 Ferucio P. Chhretan: Sorry Pony. This sort of banter isn't really worth your short's time. It should be in the ACME LOVEDOME.
Or the ACME JIZZDOME, or something. Your shorts is fine.
04/6/2004 Ewan Snow: The real problem with this short, which I feel it mostly overcame (I gave it four stars), is that the "bumping into a chick you used to know and now she's a nun" thing is a bit of a cliché. I just saw it recently in a crappy movie on TV. It might be "Saving Silverman", though it might not. Does anybody know? Let's see, there's Diane from Cheer's, and uh, I know there are several other examples of this, let me think...
04/6/2004 Benny Maniacs: I think we really got to Ferucio.
04/6/2004 Ferucio P. Chhretan: Oh Shit. Turnip-gathering, soviet comfort boy. That's a good one. That's creative. Have you ever seen soviet turnips? Have you seen fucking soviet turnips? Have you, The Lerpa? Maybe you'd think twice about calling me a "comfort boy" if you had.
04/6/2004 Mr. Pony: Diane became a nun? I never saw any of that stuff. That doesn't make it not a cliché, though, I guess. Thanks for pointing that out, and suggesting that the short worked anyway. There's room for you in the LOVEDOME.
04/6/2004 Ferucio P. Chhretan: Better get crackin' on that LOVEDOME, boy. That thing won't build itself. No I gotta go milk the yak for my 'spresso.
04/6/2004 Mr. Pony: Wait, so none of that went anywhere? None of us is better off than when we started? You're all monsters.
04/6/2004 scoop: It's about process, dude, not product.
04/6/2004 Ferucio P. Chhretan: dern tootin'
04/6/2004 Craig Lewis (4):
04/6/2004 Mr. Pony: Hey Ferucio, I just noticed that your criticism for this short, as well as Slocum's latest wine short involves suggesting very specific changes that totally alter the very nature of the short itself! What the hell! You have a lot to answer for!
04/6/2004 Ferucio P. Chhretan: I beg your pardon, Pony. Apparently I have not yet learned the rules of Acmeshorts. Perhaps if you would be so kind as to elucidate for me. That way I can comment on the shorts with better results.
04/6/2004 Mr. Pony: Naw, it's just...It's just your first comment didn't make a lick of sense.
04/6/2004 qualcomm: let me explain, FP. pony told me the other night (telepathically) that he believes any criticism on his shorts or positions is an assault on the 1st amendment.
04/6/2004 Ferucio P. Chhretan: I think I was seeing the short as being about a nun using banal language. What I didn't realize (and am glad you 'splained further in) is that the nun was breaking out of her habit (so to speak...horrific pun not intended) in order to regain contact with an old friend. I think as far as my first understanding of the short is concerned, I felt that wasn't a very interesting premise, and so I was trying to figure out how it could be more successful. I think it's successful for what you intended, I didn't read it that way though. That's where the problem may have been. Again, my opinion only, which may not count for anything.
04/6/2004 Mr. Pony: You sure we're talking about me here, Lerpa? Because when I travelled into the future and read your book (pamphlet, I guess I should say), it seemed that your central thesis was that all speech needed to be cleared through you, and that was the only way the First Amendment could be properly upheld. Also, why it was okay that you weren't showering anymore on religious grounds.
04/6/2004 Mr. Pony: Ferucio--I see. That makes sense. Given your interpretation at the time, your comment does, in fact, make sense. Hooray! Everyone's up to date!
04/6/2004 qualcomm: but FP, based on your comment
"4/6/[censored] 3:17:14 PM - Ferucio P. Chhretan: I guess it must seem bland for you, The Lerpa. I mean, there's no rape or cocksucking going on."
you didn't think the short contained banal conversation. are you some kind of liar?
04/6/2004 Ferucio P. Chhretan: I guess that was a poor word choice on my part. By banal, I meant a crude "common" tongue. I should have used something more like "coarse" or "plebian". I did not find the language to be dull, merely something beneath that of one of the order.
But if you want to call me a liar go right ahead, I know it would make you feel superior. And that's what it's all about with you, isn't it? Getting the last lick in?
Go ahead. I'm a liar. A filthy liar who doesn't fully appreciate the meaning of the words he uses. Feel good now?
04/6/2004 Ewan Snow: I feel pretty good.
04/6/2004 Jon Matza: Ferucio=Frankenstone?
04/6/2004 anonymous: Ha! Guess again, Dillweed!
04/6/2004 Mr. Pony: Ha. Okay, that was me. Forgot about the "From author" anonymous thing. Ferucio is not Frankenstone, He's just a dude who got into a couple of fights a little too early, maybe. Patience. He has skills.
04/6/2004 Dylan Danko: Jesus fuck! Are you telling me I had to read through that tripe below for naught! It seems a perfect opportunity to chase someone off the site is slowly dwindling. Someone do something!
04/6/2004 Mr. Pony: I think that's a little premature. He doesn't even have a nemesis yet.
04/6/2004 Ferucio P. Chhretan: Actually Pony I think I am rapidly becoming my own worst enemy.
Who's Frankenstone, and why isn't Frankenstone defending their good name?
04/6/2004 Dylan Danko: Pony, he has just been likened to Frankenstone and you're telling me he doesn't have a nemesis?
04/6/2004 Ferucio P. Chhretan: Having just read the literary works of Joe Frankenstone, I would just like to say one thing to Jon Matza:
Jon, if you're listening, I will never hate you the way that Frankenstone did. It's just not in me to do that. You have my word.
04/7/2004 Jon Matza: That's a relief, though it was the quality/pitch of Fstone's rhetoric I objected to, not his hatred for me. That said, Mr. Pony's word carries much weight, and if, as he claims, you, Chhretan, have the comico-intellectual skills to offset a tone that strikes me as somewhat abrasive/authoritative for a newcomer, I apologize for the comparison. Also, let it be said I admire the double H in you surname.
04/7/2004 Ferucio P. Chhretan: Thank you! I too admire your name, but for the lack of any H at all. It just seems more aerodynamic that way.
It seems I need to give Pony some sugar!
04/7/2004 Mr. Pony: I'm fine, thanks.
04/22/2004 Dick Vomit: I can't read the trail of pain below, but I will say that she should have said, "Your hair looks REALLY great!" instead of "...REALLY good." Probably the friend she was speaking with would knife her for saying GOOD. Fucking chicks.