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A symbolic offer to buy someone a beer, usually in an attempt to end a heated argument in a draw in a manner that will not be perceived as submissive, or as a surrender. While the sentiment is often totally genuine, the use of the a moderately expensive beer often enjoyed by white members of upper middle class America imbues the gesture with a certain level of ironic distance, highlighting the gap between the user and the original gesture's more working class origins. This self-aggandizing technique is itself used somewhat ironically, at once emulating and mocking the loud claps on the back straight men give each other when they hug. Origin.
Date Written: June 16, 2005Comments:
Author: Mr. Pony
06/10/2005 Jon Matza: Yes, but a) it's spelt Grolsch; b) as I read it, it conveys the macho subtext (in the emulative yet mocking spirit described by Pony) of, 'hey, we just may have just attacked each other w/hateful/vicious/personal insults, but as men of the world we understand it's all part of 'the game'; let's leave it on 'the field'--no hard feelings, guy' and so on. In MY opinion it's not generally said submissively or in a spirit of surrender, but it is concilatory; 'let's agree to move on past this argument and pretend we're not both still holding a petty grudge that'll lead us to look in the future for a) ways of baiting each other & b) reasons to vote poorly on each others shorts.'
06/10/2005 Mr. Pony: Quite right. "...Will be percieved..." was an unfortunate editing error, meant to be "...Will not be percieved..." Misspelling of Grolsch has been corrected.
06/10/2005 Mr. Pony: I also concur with your quotes and ordered lists.
06/10/2005 Mr. Pony: Um...
06/10/2005 Mr. Pony: Grolsch; guy?
06/10/2005 Jon Matza: Amstel Light, maybe.
06/10/2005 Mr. Pony: :'(
06/10/2005 qualcomm: there's one key error in your definition: the phrase doesn't have blue collar origins. grolsch is a sort of expensive beer, preferred by upper-middle class whitey. it's of a piece with dockers pants. the origin of "grolsch, guy?" is a phony millions short lampooning ewan and my relationship, by the way, and i'm pretty sure he chose that beer to make ewan and i come off all white bread.
06/10/2005 Mr. Pony: Wow, that is a big error.
06/10/2005 Jon Matza: The dimensions of the Grolsch brand, put as simply as possible: swingtop, crowncork and can.
06/10/2005 Mr. Pony: Although the "Let me buy you a beer" does have kind of a common man feel to it. So the "Grolsch" is meant to pervert that honest, working class sentiment into something more befitting you and Snow, with your Dockers and white suburban mentalities?
06/10/2005 qualcomm: i think so. i picture us wearing prefaded factory made levi's cutoffs. another important element to this phrase: the use of beer by men as a stand-in for acknowledgement of feelings. that is, not just as a way to save face and end an argument, but a means to sharing manly love without being all gay.
06/10/2005 Mr. Pony: There is so much to learn about hu-mahn cultures!!
06/10/2005 Mr. Pony: Aw, man, I just pictured you guys in prefaded factory made levi's cutoffs. Thanks so much.
06/10/2005 Mr. Pony: Gentlemen, thank you for the help with this definition.